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    Meme Monday

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 04:00 AM PST

    Welcome it's everyone's favourite and most hated time of the week - meme monday.

    In this thread memes of any caliber are welcome. Low effort, high effort, reactiongif, advice animal, whatever.

    In here you're safe from those evil meme hating mods, post whatever meme you see fit!

    Please remember to note whether your post is SFW or not when commenting.

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    The Massacre of M2-

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 09:22 PM PST

    We didn't crash the server. - Eve parody song

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 11:33 AM PST

    45 Bil Snuffed Out Ransom...

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 03:54 PM PST

    45 Bill Isk

    How much is the Sixth Empire worth?

    According to Snuffed Out Alliance, they ransomed the Sixth Empire for 45 bill isk to stop their attack on the "Children's Orphanage", a Sotiyo citadel in the Low Sec system of Basgerin.

    The Sixth Empire has a pretty strict code of conduct that was never copied and pasted, but authored due to real in-game, and out-of-game incidents. We don't pay rent, we don't pay ransoms.

    https://sites.google.com/site/sixthempirealliance/join/conduct

    Our goal is to provide a place for players to have home in-game while they may be changing alliances, going to college, military service, or whatever their life challenges face them. We always state, "real life comes first" so in-game we provide a place to park their capital ships, or sell them, or even as stated change alliances. People often join then move on including entire corporations switching alliances.

    We have been given donations by many alliances to do this very function. We never built the Keepstar, it was donated to us by Mercenary Coalition. We use the income from our Sotiyo and other activities to help real-world players that have a good case to present, by sometimes providing plex for their omega subscription. We do a few other things as well to keep the spirits of the Sixth Empire members, and friends going so they can play EVE Online.

    We don't have a Navy. We can't defend ourselves because that's not the game we play, so we are sitting ducks for Snuff. Many of our allies are engaged in Delve (on both sides), so it's perfect timing for Snuff to hit the Orphanage now.

    We don't pay ransoms by choice, but the grand and mighty Sixth Empire only has 8 bil to its name because as stated, we use our income for our players, not buying ships and fittings. Well, and fuel, that Keepstar sucks it down, but we have stayed stable due to the communities use of the port to buy and sell lowsec and nullsec supplies that are jump freighter-ed out. Basgerin is the almost perfect center of the EVE cluster map.

    So this may be the end of an era, who knows.

    If you have assets in the Vatican Keepstar you may want to evacuate them while Snuff Out does their thing. They may take out all our assets, but what is really happening is they are taking out our service we provide the player community.

    Oh and funny note, they said if I promote Snuffed Out to the new Space Pope they would stop the attack. Well, I hate to tell them, but I never called myself the Space Pope, which was done by the community, so that too would be up to the community.

    I'm just thankful that the community has supported me in this role, and the Sixth Empire in-game. We definitely not your typical alliance.

    Signed, Charles White (out of character)

    Max Singularity has yet to role play this out.

    EDIT: Thanks for all the support. Here is the Structure timer for those that want some in-game content. LOL 10:39 PM Thursday, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)

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    M2- Hellcamp Update

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 05:20 PM PST

    Frat vs The Freemen of the North - Week 1 and 2

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 03:58 PM PST

    Hello r/Eve, I'm here with an update on Frat and WinterCo's aggression in Tribute and Vale. It's more of a general overview to bring you up to speed and illustrate just what exactly their real focus has been while everyone else seems to be preoccupied down south.

    Below you'll find a short recap of recent events in the North in relation to Frat deciding to push on the collection of independent states (referenced as The Freemen of the North, or Freemen) in order to expand their botting empire across the entirety of the northern quadrant of the cluster.

    Who am I? Helsir Qyrdun, a director within Stimulus, the main corp of Rote Kapelle. Naturally, this is from our viewpoint and should be taken as such. I have done my best to keep it meme free but as this is a personal account, well, it won't be 100%.

    A short history for everyone to catch up on:

    In March of 2018, Rote Kapelle was in pretty dire straits. We had spent the last year or so in Great Wildlands playing a playstyle that was not constructive for our identity. We amicably cut ties with our blues and moved on to Covryn. Lowsec was good for us; without anything truly at risk we were allowed to be ourselves and rebuild our member base, experience and culture. All in all, the move away from GW and setting ourselves on our own pathway and initiative for content was the right choice.

    Enter July 2019. The Imperium had just finished their glassing of the north and with a now more active and self-propelled memberbase the "It's Free Real Estate" meme manifested itself in the M-O pocket. Initially, the thought of entering the Sov game again wasn't on the directorate's radar, but being the fine line members that they are, the Rote bois fulfilled the one requirement of: "find sov within JF range of Jita" and off we went.

    The initial few months of our life in Tribute were quiet, seeing most of our action in Pure Blind and Deklein helping Cone, camping the Taisy gate (c'mon, it's easy) and letting the bait beacon (bacon) catch a fair number of idiots. It wouldn't be until 2020 that things with our neighbors got spicy, but ultimately they can be summed up with: their USTZ got fed up and stopped bothering us and we all got on with our lives.

    Most of 2020 was punctuated with these small skirmishes and then eventually falling back to our normal day-to-day of roaming and tactically feeding/killing things. We had numerous run-ins with the residents of Vale, but ultimately watched them burn to WinterCo aggression after A: directly asking for the fight and B: being racist tools, so we felt no remorse. However, the writing was on the wall: The bot emperor needed to feed the bot empire. We were well aware of this fact and continually told our members to make hay while the sun is shining because winter (literally) is coming, and we plan to fight it out.

    Tl;dr: Bunch of stuff that doesn't matter, just setting the stage for how we got to here. If all you want is current news, begin reading here:

    29 December 2020

    Noraus initially contacts Rote looking for a diplomatic contact. The following conversation ensues:

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/386394817741062146/793715932472147969/unknown.png?width=900&height=230

    https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/386394817741062146/793718969906757652/unknown.png?width=752&height=443

    Naturally this kind of matter-of-fact approach is not welcomed and combined with the insultingly low price offered for the space, we decided to respond by saying nothing. You see, dear reader, we (Rote) were honestly open to the option of being paid fairly for the space. Rote innately does not tie ourselves or identity to the things we own or the space we live in. They are merely tools to get done what we want to get done: Supers have their usage, Forts do too, Moons are good for making money, ratting is an ok way to generate isk, and the M-O/Taisy gate is a perfect chill and drink a beer activity. We put no sentimental value on any of these things, just seeing them for what they are and like any good quality tool, if you're going to part with it: give it to your kids, your friends, or be paid fair market price for it.

    Rote at this time held approximately 25 Athanors and 45 POCOs, for those of you doing the math at home, the total offer from Frat would have come in at around 15b, without accounting for the fuel in the structures. For Toilet Paper, they report their offer would have been around 35b.

    From what we could tell, Frat expected to ticker tank against us, using the threat of violence from their numerical superiority to push us towards what would be a terrible deal and ultimately a minimal level of effort from them to secure the space. Well... that just wasn't going to work on us like it did some of our (now) former allies in Vale. The directorate presented this deal to the Rote Kapelle member base on NYE and the unanimous response was in line with our own: fight it out, get our payment in killmails. As an alliance we began drawing up battleplans, solidifying lines of communication with new allies that had a spine and would be sticking around, and resetting our holdings to wartime footing.

    Week 1 - 1-7 Jan 2021

    Belligerents: Fraternity (Holy Moly), Fraternity University

    Free Men of the North: Toilet Paper, Quote Alliance, Rote Kapelle (Rote Works)

    The first big engagement of the war was when Frat attempted to drop a fortizar in D7-ZAC, Toilet Paper's capital, leading to this engagement as TP caught the Anshar and the Fort during its anchoring. Both would eventually die in the ensuing capital brawl, with Frat also feeding a Munnin, Ferox and Mach fleet to save it, oh yeah, and a Nyx.

    Rote Kapelle would enter the war proper with an initial defense of J-GAMP and M-OEE8 Ihub timers, which Frat had toasted with faxes. To counter this tactic we cynojammed the entire pocket and bubbled the entirety of the ingress routes. This forced Frat to adjust on the fly and swap to a mass of interceptors in order to stop our defensive entosis efforts.

    It didn't work.

    However, we didn't get dressed up for nothing, so, after getting some intel from BOSS on a mining operation, we started moving. If Frat was going to start with half effort, we'd drag a good fight out of them.

    This would cap off week 1 of the war. Current Hubris Tax Level for Frat V Rote Kapelle: 229%, for TP: 514%

    Current tallies are:

    Team Frat Freemen
    Isk Lost 194b 49b
    Ships Lost 652 314
    Supers 1
    Dreads 10 7
    Fax 5 1
    Carrier 2
    JFs 1
    Rorqs 2
    Forts 1
    Ansiblex 1
    Battleships 28 2
    HACs 55 12
    Botters 23

    Week 2 - 8-14 Jan 2021

    Belligerents: Fraternity (Holy Moly), Fraternity University

    Free Men of the North: Toilet Paper, Quote Alliance, Rote Kapelle (Rote Works)

    Week 2 would begin with a bang, as the Rote Kapelle nanobois would stumble across this magnificent fellow ratting. We continued to draw out activity in conjunction with our French allies in TP by systematically reinforcing every ansiblex we could hit. Our campers began installing their alts throughout all of Vale, providing for steady blops activity on the completely real people piloting the Ishtars and Gilas. The highpoint of this week would be the discovery of a Frat Nyx and Hel bashing an abandoned Frat Azbel. We would ultimately fail to nab the supers but secured two dreads from the wreckage, multiple capital BPOs (25b base value), and netting two dread kills.

    Current Hubris Tax Level for Frat V Rote Kapelle: 564%, for TP: 687%

    Current tallies are:

    Team Frat Freemen
    Isk Lost 298b 121b
    Ships Lost 1450 764
    Supers 1
    Dreads 12 7
    Fax 5 1
    Carrier 3
    JFs 1
    Rorqs 2
    Forts 1
    Azbel 1
    Ansiblex 3
    Tenebrex 4
    Battleships 42 25
    HACs 71 36
    Botters 82

    Not mentioned in the numbers above are the fine gentlemen of other independent states that have kindly offered their assistance to Rote Kapelle and Toilet Paper/Quote. Including those numbers would seem a bit unfair, skewing the Frat isk lost upwards of 740b and steeply moving the goalpost of people aligned against them to more of a 1:5 ratio vs the current 1:15. But I won't close this out without mentioning them and hopefully I don't miss anyone, because that isn't my intention.

    A hearty thank you to the following:

    • We Form V0lta
    • United Federation of Conifers
    • No Vacancies
    • Odin's Call (all 600 of them)
    • Triumvirate
    • Pen Is Out
    • Brotherhood of Spacers

    Week 3 has been interesting thus far, Frat seems to be not taking fights without significant number advantages. We recognize in the aftermath of M2- and subsequent fights in the south these numbers are tiny, but ultimately this is a matter of respect and the price of hubris.

    If you have any questions feel free to hit us up here or on Discord.

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    Potato Player Feels

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 02:24 PM PST

    Grr Goons

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 07:20 AM PST

    Waiting for it....

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 09:01 AM PST

    The_Fight_goes_on.PNG

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 10:00 PM PST

    I just spent 997M ISK on a Drone Nav II because I can't read, 5 minutes after I lost my Ishtar trying to rescue my DNI from mission rats I didn't need to kill. AMA.

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 06:16 PM PST

    The letters "K" and "M" are different. Also when a mission says "yeah, battleships on grid, warp out" maybe I should take the hint.

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    Stahp

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 04:16 PM PST

    Working on a tool for streamers to get a live statistic of kills from zKillboard. Would love some feedback.

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 01:11 PM PST

    During the last big fight in M2-XFE I quickly hacked together a page to keep a live counter of dead Titans. I now made that into a proper tool to stream kills from zKillboard and would love some more feedback (especially from people who stream).

    Link: https://nexuscrawler.net:4004/html/KillStreamer.html

    The idea behind that page is to give streamers different overlays they can include in their streams. It currently features a view of the last 5 killmails, as well as a list of killed ship groups and ship types.

    https://preview.redd.it/y1mv8y80l5c61.jpg?width=1419&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc23c84cd12e060dbf7d3e9af7a5f523046d463f

    The statistic can include the killed amount of ships, their value in ISK as well as their value in dollars. Groups and Types can be added manually or automatically added as they die. For easier background filtering there are different display modes, including two different greenscreen modes.

    https://preview.redd.it/5vsthgwnl5c61.jpg?width=1417&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74c4e63f5f3a2301236bcc6bad9496817321d241

    Killmails can be filtered by regions, constellations and systems. You can add alliances and corporations to two different Teams, if you are covering fights between two entities. The losses will then be listed separately for each. Everything is live updating and will re-calculate, if you add a new group to the teams or change the displayed ship groups and types.

    https://preview.redd.it/e8zuvzaum5c61.jpg?width=1841&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61e876291b925715e2bbbd84ed158678840fcf4f

    To avoid having to create accounts and/or use cookies, all settings are included in the URL. That way you can simply save the page as a bookmark or copy the URL when you are done with the setup and everything will be restored the way you left it.

    I've tried to avoid making the page too fancy or adding too many elements and borders. That would just get in the way when cropping out the boxes for the stream. I'm currently working on making them freely movable for better positioning.

    Here's an example of the tool in use ...

    https://preview.redd.it/zk5fvf8do5c61.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=0639e8190e36ef928ab445de6c0ae90cd000755b

    Let me hear your opinions. Thanks!

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    trapi - reuploaded

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 02:42 AM PST

    Thwarted again!

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 11:37 AM PST

    The Discourse - Pochven Lost In Gravity

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 04:04 PM PST

    Bored with coalition gameplay

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 07:45 AM PST

    Disclaimer: I'm not sure how to express this properly and English isn't my primary language, but I'll give it a go. Yes, this is a whine post and no, I don't care. I have some thoughts on the game and I hope someone feels me and has an interesting opionion to share.

    About three months ago I decided to return to the game after a two years hiatus, as the pandemic has me sitting at home a lot. Because I never joined a nullsec group before, I went looking for one and found a really nice group of people speaking my language. The corp is well-embedded in nullsec and I don't have any complaints about the corporation itself, or the alliance it's in.

    But man, those coalition PVP fleets... where to start. I think I spent about a billion to get a few doctrine ships, and now half that doctrine is phased out leaving me with 500 mil worth of ships nobody wants to buy, I can't use in fleets, and would likely die in transit when I'd try to take them out of staging. Now, that would have not been so much of an issue if the content was actually fun enough to be worth the money, but as it stands it just isn't. 30 minutes of form-up followed by 2 hours of executing instructions like I'm some goddamn machine.

    I find it amazing FC's can get more guys then can fit in a single fleet to show up to throw away their ISK / time. Opsec means you don't know what you're getting into until the last minute, could be an amazing fight but so far all I have seen are boring-as-hell structure bashes where nobody shows up to defend. Except for this one time where we were competing for who could lock Ravens the fastest and get on the most KM's. Utterly onesided tidi-laced boredom.

    Due to the damage cap on structures I constantly get these "deflection" messages indicating in no uncertain terms that my presence there is a mere deterrent, not actually useful, and a massive waste of my time just to get to click on some FAT link proving that I did indeed sacrifice my time and ISK for some greater good. The one and only reason I join these fleets is because doing so improves the reputation of my corp, which are all good people. It's for them that I still do this.

    I started out curious to nullsec fleet PVP. After several of such fleets, my interest in nullsec PVP has diminished to a point where I'm just not joining fleets anymore, knowing full well 255 other nerds will rush for a position I don't even covet. And I have a hard time deciding who or what to blame for the state of nullsec: is it Fozziesov? Is it the blue donut? Is it the game's inherent design? Or perhaps it's just that the average Eve player is genuinely entertained by having a deep PVP system simplified to a quicktime event (press F1 on primary) to maximize efficieny and KM generation?

    I learned all these things about brawling, kiting, traversal and such... and I never use that stuff anymore. I anchor up, lock a thing, and press F1. That's it. I really feel like what I painstakingly learned through shame and failure has become useless, and that all I am good for nowadays is to krab together yet another HAC so I can join yet another boring bash fleet. People indicated I could fly Dreads as I have the skills for all of them. But looking at their cost I already dread the amount of PVE I have to engage in to pay for one. SRP is all after-the-fact and I don't stand to profit off achieving objectives. On top of that I feel limited by bureaucracy almost as much as in the real world.

    I have no reason to continue this nullsec schtick apart from not wanting to let down the awesome group I joined. I'm just a single character, I don't even use alts. I wonder what I should do with my Eve career at this point? My sub lapses in about a month and I'm genuinely thinking about saving the 500 PLEX I have left instead of cashing them in for play time, and perhaps return to lowsec after I got the bad taste of null out of my mouth. What do you guys think?

    TLDR; I thought nullsec might be cool, but it turns out it's the kind of bureaucratic hell I'm actually try to escape by playing video games. I don't want to leave the cool group of people that I found, but what is implicitly expected of me is so excrutiatingly boring I'm even considering leaving the game altogether for a while. What do Reddit?

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    Yup, that about sums it up.

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 09:19 AM PST

    Need help with a solo pvp ESS Paladin fit

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 11:51 PM PST

    My concern is for the 3 utility highs, i put 2 heavy neuts and 1 large smartbomb but im not sure about the second heavy neut because it makes my capacitor weaker (i have heavy cap injector, large thukker cap battery, dual armor rep that uses cap) so my concern is about those highs and how much cap stability i would need?

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    Triglavians Invade Perimeter (2020)

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 09:07 PM PST

    Mr. Clean spots the C4 filth

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 10:09 AM PST

    Can you not do abyssals in a T3 cruiser?

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 07:28 AM PST

    I was going to train into a Tengu to run abyssals. But it seems that strategic cruisers can't run abyssals? Is this true. Sorry, just came back to the game.

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    How young is too young for a recruit in EVE Online?

    Posted: 18 Jan 2021 04:35 AM PST

    So this comes from a discussion I've had with my recruiters. Recently my corp (Foxholers) has had a few people aged around 14/15 apply and it got me thinking.

    How young is too young for EVE Online? Is it fine because it's just a video game and age doesn't matter? What effect does the generally older audience have on this and does it matter what kind of corp you are?

    How about examples of younger pilots who have been more or even less mature that you expect. It's an interesting topic.

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